Best way to get -10 Pirates out in space where people can kill them?

Remove the ******** half-brother of Concord - the Faction Police. (Long overdue since Crimewatch release anyway)

Pirates would no longer be required to stay in station, and so-called 'highsec badasses' that want to 'get them' might have a shot at it.

But removing faction police would just make carebears cry even harder. I can hear it now - "Oh, Oh - that makes the game 'too easy' for criminals!"

You can't have it both ways.

If you want stupid NPC police to protect you by forcing pirates into hiding when idle, you DON'T get to whine when they act in a (rational) way that won't let you 'get at them'.

So what we've learned here is that some people have fundamentally misunderstood what the words GÇ£griefingGÇ¥ and GÇ£problemGÇ¥ mean since they keep applying them to stuff that very obviously does not qualify as either.

I honestly cannot.

Please explain.

This has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read, and I've been on TEST forums.

Most of EvE revolves around unintended events. The biggest battle in EvE's history occurred because someone forgot to pay the rent. Hell, MANY of the biggest battles have occurred because of unintended occurrences.

If CCP didn't find it acceptable, it could be changed. It hasn't been, ergo, they don't find it unacceptable, ergo, it isn't unintended.

No it's not dodging any mechanic, the mechanic is part of the game for a reason.

Besides, one doesn't need to dock in a station to avoid them. Bouncing around the grid
is much more fun and more challenging ... that's why most outlaws in highsec hide in station all day.
Ask CODE ... they're full of these lazyass, cowardish carebears.

"hard work?" "pisses you off?"
If anything you are doing 'in game' for ISK remotely resembles hard work, you are doing it horribly wrong. Losing a ship shouldn't ruin your day, even though we find it hilarious if it does.

I do enough hard work in real life. Eve is play. Gankers generally understand this. Judging from your quote, carebears struggle with this concept.

Yeah, you kinda do. It's pretty hard to tank them in any kind of ship you would fly as a suicide ganker.

Yes, they can be tanked in, for example, a T3 or a command ship or some battleships. But who the **** is going to fly one of those as a suicide ganker? You'd have to be insane.

And if you mean evading them, no, you can't do it in a battleship either, unless you fit it to align more quickly than is normal.

But if you're going to stay in open space with a neg ten sec status, you have to be in a pod where anyone who happens along can pop you if they feel like it.

So what do gankers actually do? You use a neutral Orca, or have someone bring you a ship in a safe spot, where you sit with your pod until the attack order is given.

And it's easier to just dock up until the time is right.




You want to know what's really dumbing down the game? The kind of player who wants to have NPCs do their jobs for them. The kind of player who thinks they can abandon their own responsibility to defend themselves.


But you can't cry about not being able to attack suicide gankers since they always dock up, and then vigorously defend the mechanic that causes them to dock up in the first place. Look past your own nose.

Go after their logistics chain either with guns or via the market. Their ships and guns don't appear from nowhere, they have to be shipped in or purchased.

In other words it's too much effort to do it yourself, you want others to do it for you

Then give them a reason to fly something besides disposable ships.

Remove faction police.

Then give them a reason to fly something besides disposable ships.

Remove faction police.

Not even a good attempt at a strawman. L2Read.

Pff.

Like I said, at least put some effort into it.

Yes, you can tank faction police in a T3 cruiser or a command ship. I also said, in case you actually can read and you care to look at it again, that you'd be insane to suicide gank in such ships, and actual instances of people tanking facpo are typically limited to camping trade hubs for people on the other side of faction warfare. I also said that the reason you don't see low sec status pilots in anything except disposable ships is because they are constantly hounded by facpo, so flying more expensive ships is stupid.

Now, let's see if you can count, since that's a bit easier than reading. Can you put two and two together, and not get five?

Because if you're actually talking about people using expensive ships to gank (which I wasn't), then the only way that will ever happen is if CONCORD is made into something besides a binary mechanic. So, carebear, if you actually want to see emergent gameplay, you need to stop abdicating your own defense to the magic omnipotent space police for once.

But if you want to keep making up **** like


Which I neither said nor implied, then you can just take a hike.

OMG so much this lol. That's why the crying crowd tends to irk me. If they can't deal with the minor BS of a video game (BS I've somehow managed to survive and avoid in it's entirety since 2007), what happens to these people in a real life clutters up with taxes, divorce, wayward kids and health problems?

One of us has to.




It's only confusing if you don't realize that there are other ways to lose sec status than ganking. And there are low sec status pilots out there that are not suicide gankers. I would wager to say the majority of them.

So, what it "implies" (as opposed to what you incorrectly infer), is that I believe that the people who cry about how gankers always dock up until they find a target are hypocrites for defending the very thing that makes up a large part of why low sec status characters stay docked up in the first place. And that I think you'd see more low sec status characters undocked in open space if facpo were removed from the game for everyone except faction warfare characters.




Actually I play Guns of Icarus while I wait out criminal timers. Netflix has gotten fairly bad in recent years, their selection sucks.

It's 100% intended in his suggestion, by the way. That's the end goal of all carebears. To lock out other people's gameplay, turn the game into Trammel.